It’s me again and today I have got a text about Cyber Mobbing for you. I am not sure if it is very coherent, but I just kept on writing what came into my mind.
Before I start with this topic however I just wanted to thank everyone who still reads this blog and especially the few people who even leave comments. Thank you!
Non Goth people, who hear about “Cyber Mobbing” will usually just think about mobbing on the internet, but in our subculture “Cyber” does not only refer to virtual things and activities on the internet or the internet in general (the Cyberspace), but it is, as the majority of you may know the name for a kind of sub-subculture, which is more or less connected with the Goth subculture.
More or less?
Well, at first glance Cybers and Goths do not have much in common. Simply said: The ones wear screaming bright colours and listen to (dark) electronic music while the others dress in black and prefer Goth Rock, Wave or Post Punk music.
(some pictures of oldschool Goths: this way
and to see Cybers: click here)
But we also know that there exists a lot of diversity within what is called the Goth subculture and it is not easy to set boundaries. For there is no checklist which clearly defines all the attributes of “real Goths” and almost everyone has an (at least slightly) different opinion about what and who is Goth and what and who is not.
“Pure” Gothic does not exist and most likely never did, because it is a wide umbrella term open for many different kinds of interpretation. Many music genres and people fit under that umbrella and even more claim to fit in.
Some Cybers do not just call themselves Cybers, but Cyber Goths and they claim to be part of the Goth subculture (and therefore of course also visit Goth Clubs or Festivals). Obviously they feel connected to Gothic somehow (and some Cyber Goth argue that they are “Goths at heart and wear black daily but prefer bright colours at the club because they like to stand out from the crowd).
I do not want to decide who is Goth and who is not and weather someone is an oldschool Goth, a Cyber, both or neither has nothing to do with them being a nice, intelligent and interesting person.
However, I noticed that the aversion to Cybers seems to increase.
I have always heard (in clubs) and read (online) snarky remarks about Cybers and various nicknames for them.
Around here Cyber Goths are often called:
“Glühwürmchen” = German for glowflies
“Knicklichtgrufties” = Knicklicht = snap light lightsticks
Grufties = Goths
„Schlauchköpfe“ = Schlauch = tube (which names the Cyberloxx)
Köpfe = heads
(by the way, I recently read in an online Cyber Goth community that some of them call other Goths (= non Cyber Goths) “Black Goths” which sounds to me like a Pleonasm).
These monikers can be used in an ironically but rather friendly manner, but also as an insult.
Hate towards Cybers seems to grow, even if their number has decreased (at least that is what I have noticed, I am pretty sure that this depends strongly on where you live).
People make fun of their clothes, their general appearance (“Those colours are hurting my eyes, give me cancer…”), the way they dance, the music they listen to and so on.
It seems like especially oldschool Goths or Batcaver (who tend to act like they are the only ones who understand what Gothic truly is, which music you have got to hear and which clothes you have got to wear) do not like Cybers and strictly do not want them within the (“their”) subculture.
For this there could be many reasons:
They do not like the music commonly associated with Cybers which is now played more frequently at the clubs, they contend that the colourful clothing ruins the dark, gloomy atmosphere and so eventually the “good and true old Gothic” will vanish.
A the same time I noticed something like a “back to the roots” movement or at least a growing desire and interest for the roots and “the old times” (music and fashion wise) when everything was better and blacker.
The ways to show this antipathy are various. Some people just make some snarky remarks or whisper with their friends, others hand out flyers (as it happened at the WGT, as I was told) and again others post their opinion on the internet.
There are special sites and groups, for example on facebook which are called: “Anti Cyber Movement” and similar names (where it is made clear, quite caustically that Cybers are not welcome and not wanted within the Goth subculture).
I do not think the people who are running sites like this, are supporting those sites or just agree with the opinion that Cyber has nothing to do with the (original) Goth subculture are bad, close-minded or completely wrong. But sometimes the sound is very harsh and this makes me worried. Because you can post anonymously on the internet some opinions shared are quite extreme and full of hate.
My assumption is that the Goths who are against Cyber in such a manner somehow feel threatened, like “their” subculture, where they have always felt comfortable and at home is invaded by strange, colourful people who do not fit in but say so nonetheless and because “their” subculture is transforming.
If more and more Cybers attend Goth Clubs or Goth nights in Clubs and the owners want them to stay (because they are also guests and pay as well) they will maybe change the music to please them, which leads to even more Cybers visiting that club.
However, the, in my opinion best solution would be to simply divide those two subcultures.
Yes, I think there are two, of course they are interconnected and there are crossovers and of course there are “true” Cyber Goths, people who feel like they are Goth and Cyber (like there are people who are Goth and Metaller, Goth and Lolita etc.) but there are also lots of people who are just Goths / just Cybers.
They could have their own clubs, parties, meetings, festivals….
(I know that simply separating more often than not would just work in theory, because in many regions each subculture on its own is too tiny to have its own clubs and parties why Goths and Cybers will still have to cope with each other in the future)
Sadly when talking about Goths and Cybers the debate quickly becomes one about tolerance and intolerance.
I do not think Goths should love and tolerate everyone, because then the subculture may transform beyond recognition. But nonetheless we should respect others (and their taste in fashion, music, dancing style…).
So: Divide don’t fight.
We neither have to love nor hate each other, but if we are always stuck in the same club together disagreements are vary likely to arise.
~ Lucretia ~